tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post4449792106949753451..comments2023-10-20T08:03:50.579-05:00Comments on Blogging While Feminist: Unarmed people killed by police.Plain(s)feministhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-4040788251516116842009-07-13T09:59:03.200-05:002009-07-13T09:59:03.200-05:00...and what a privilege, to be "so tired of t......and what a privilege, to be "so tired of the race thing" and to think that this issue has "long been subdued."Plain(s)feministhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-73684631006509261072009-02-10T20:42:00.000-06:002009-02-10T20:42:00.000-06:00Anon,Thanks for explaining. I take your point.It'...Anon,<BR/>Thanks for explaining. I take your point.<BR/><BR/>It's an interesting discussion; I was once talking with a community activist who focused on police abuse of Blacks in Buffalo. She felt that we ought to do away with the police and have citizens serve as a sort of volunteer police force. Which is essentially what used to be the case in many places, and that was definitely not a safer situation - for the obvious reason that people used this power to get revenge or for whatever other purposes that served them.<BR/><BR/>Anyway...this is all food for thought.Plain(s)feministhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-3669283894598447912009-02-10T20:37:00.000-06:002009-02-10T20:37:00.000-06:00PF, a bit more. You said cops sometimes use the g...PF, a bit more. You said cops sometimes use the guns without cause. Probably most citizens use guns without cause as well. I'd prefer a world where neither the citizenry nor the police had guns. Given that the citizenry here have guns, and the recent Supreme Court ruling has only made it easier, it is not all obvious that disarming law enforcement means that people of color will be less often victims of gun violence without cause. In fact, it may be more. And that is where this article simplifies things way too much -- it assumes that an unarmed police force would lessen violence against people of color without addressing the collateral consequences of what it means to those communities to have an unarmed police force when non-police people in the US have ready access to guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-55173286533199638542009-02-10T20:16:00.000-06:002009-02-10T20:16:00.000-06:00PF, it has to do with the fact that the cops are a...PF, it has to do with the fact that the cops are also investigating the crimes that blacks and other people of color are victims of. If the goal is to reduce violence and enhance justice for people of color, you'd have to also consider not only whether unarmed cops would be less likely to victimize people of color (the answer is surely yes, but it only takes you so far), but whether taking away guns from cops would decrease their ability to deal with crimes against people of color, who are also disproportionately victims of gun violence (meaning the perpetrators of those crimes against victims of of color will be armed).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-4644440735009430112009-02-10T20:09:00.000-06:002009-02-10T20:09:00.000-06:00Anon,I'm not sure how I'm simplifying the reality ...Anon,<BR/>I'm not sure how I'm simplifying the reality by focusing on the police. We have officers with guns who are using the guns without cause, and I don't have statistics, but it seems like when this happens, people of color tend to be on the receiving end of the bullet fairly often.<BR/><BR/>What does this have to do with being victims of non-cop violence - how does that affect this?Plain(s)feministhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-75520954923342413022009-02-10T18:56:00.000-06:002009-02-10T18:56:00.000-06:00Black men and women are also victims of non-cop vi...Black men and women are also victims of non-cop violence in tremendous numbers. You are very much simplifying the reality. I am very much pro gun control, and also would not be opposed to cops not carrying firearms if we were in a situation like the UK where there is an unarmed populace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-42303671427646339452009-02-07T19:08:00.000-06:002009-02-07T19:08:00.000-06:00I am wary of people who have guns. I think it give...I am wary of people who have guns. I think it gives them a power rush. <BR/><BR/>I think police carrying guns is, in a way, similar to hitting kids. <BR/><BR/>I can not ever hit a kid (because I don't have one of my own). So I use other forms of punishment I can think of other than hitting. What if cops didn't carry guns, just like I don't "carry" being allowed to hit? I bet all of a sudden they'd find ways to subdue people that don't involve shooting them, just like I find ways to punish without hitting.Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16418000715581696676noreply@blogger.com