tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post4665188733509636887..comments2023-10-20T08:03:50.579-05:00Comments on Blogging While Feminist: ...Plain(s)feministhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-9806387332684077662007-05-04T01:22:00.000-05:002007-05-04T01:22:00.000-05:00i dunno. i don't particularly expect any better o...i dunno. i don't particularly expect any better of any loose grouping over another, first of all. in general i think that when you get crazy ugly shit like this, for the most part you will get a resounding chorus of -crickets- from the peanut gallery, for a whole bunch of reasons mostly having to do with self-preservation, sure.<BR/><BR/>besides that--in this case i'm not even sure it's really a political group per se as some sort of wack online psychodrama cum croquet game played with flamingos. anyway, while there's been some fucked up shit in the rest of the feminist world (online and off), this lot always seems to be the most...intense about it? anyway i don't know of any other branch of feminism that puts so much energy into determining who is and isn't part of the chosen circle, who gets to bear the sacred name, who's utterly beyond the pale; and how -for some reason- everyone's out to get them.<BR/><BR/>you know, the handful of only a few dozen people with no power whatsoever (as they keep insisting), who are nonetheless somehow going to lead us to Revolution (as they also keep insisting)...belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-10583014009826776452007-05-03T22:49:00.000-05:002007-05-03T22:49:00.000-05:00Cassandra - I was disturbed by that, as well. The...Cassandra - I was disturbed by that, as well. The cheering on was less surprising, actually, given some of those who did it. The passivity - I wonder if that actually was supportive or just "I really don't want to get into the middle of this shit storm." I suspect it may be the latter, in fact.<BR/><BR/>And Danielle - I knew what you were responding to; I didn't mean that I knew of anyone in particular who had a problem with me. I was more trying to make the point that a lot of people seem to care a lot what other "established" (or just outspoken) feminists think of their feminism. I don't. Hence my comment - I'm sure people could, and perhaps do, take issue with me, but you know, not my problem. And yes, they could take issue with me because I'm married and have a child, though it would be more likely that they'd take issue with me because I occasionally wear lipstick and heels. Or maybe because I'll be voting for Obama rather than Hillary - I don't know. It totally depends on which feminists we're talking about.<BR/><BR/>(Just to be fair, the same exact issues are present in any political group. It's hardly a feminist thing. I just tend to expect better from feminists than, say, Democrats.)Plain(s)feministhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-67272084381597982332007-05-03T21:34:00.000-05:002007-05-03T21:34:00.000-05:00"I'm sure, and call me all kinds of names and chal..."I'm sure, and call me all kinds of names and challenge my commitment to feminism."<BR/><BR/>This is what I was talking about. I just couldn't remember the exact words you used, and didn't want to scroll back and loose what I already wrote. I wondered who challenged your commitment, and why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-18443435323589567702007-05-03T20:56:00.000-05:002007-05-03T20:56:00.000-05:00I have no words. I am sorry that folks still have ...I have no words. I am sorry that folks still have to deal with this kind of crap in this day and age.<BR/> Posting personal info of any sort, for any reason is scary stuff. <BR/>And outing someone just smacks of immaturity.andihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07193493687484232494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-76602095790604674142007-05-03T20:29:00.000-05:002007-05-03T20:29:00.000-05:00It almost goes without saying that this is manipul...It almost goes without saying that this is manipulative bullshit, not feminism. <BR/>It does worry me who else might have seen that and thought "hey, person X has really been pissing me off recently, why don't I try that on her?".<BR/>What worries me most, though, is all the people on that thread who either cheered Stormy on or passively went along with it.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-88279017649127865802007-05-03T15:50:00.000-05:002007-05-03T15:50:00.000-05:00Thanks for the support, PF.Thanks for the support, PF.Renegade Evolutionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17905949172886730262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-37628406898299870092007-05-03T13:44:00.000-05:002007-05-03T13:44:00.000-05:00Danielle,I don't know anyone in particular who thi...Danielle,<BR/>I don't know anyone in particular who thinks I'm not a good enough feminist. Wait, I take that back - about 10 years ago, I knew several feminists in my Women's Studies program who challenged my even calling myself a feminist because I said that I wasn't anti-porn and because I said that I thought we needed to tell college freshwomen that they shouldn't get drunk at frat parties because frats deliberately tried to get them drunk so they could rape them.<BR/><BR/>My point was more that I don't give a fig what some random internet person or persons think about my politics. They do not determine who I am or what labels I attach to myself. And so there is no point in getting into arguments with people who are essentially one-trick political ponies who are motivated only by their own ideology. There's just nothing to be gained from that.<BR/><BR/><I>Pf, does this really surprise you? So much of feminism is saturated with anger and sarcasm, that it's inevitable that a physical threat towards someone will happen.</I><BR/><BR/>This is not the feminism I see on a daily basis. This is the feminism I find in some corners on the net, sure, and I suppose it doesn't surprise me that the threat came from the person it came from (though I would have expected it from one or two others, first). But this is not feminism. It's what happens when feminism breaks down.Plain(s)feministhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056404699624958898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-59547913906979875952007-05-03T13:23:00.000-05:002007-05-03T13:23:00.000-05:00I thought "taking someone out" meant that you want...I thought "taking someone out" meant that you want to kill them. How do you take someone out online? Lol. <BR/>Pf, does this really surprise you? So much of feminism is saturated with anger and sarcasm, that it's inevitable that a physical threat towards someone will happen. <BR/>Why do these women think you aren't a good enough feminist? Does being married and having a child have anything to do with it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20435429.post-9483012335672930022007-05-02T23:00:00.000-05:002007-05-02T23:00:00.000-05:00she had a sayonara post, which you can read cached...she had a sayonara post, which you can read cached <A HREF="http://redgarterclubwebsite.com/SmackChron_Blog/2007/05/01/on-aprf-terrorism-bullying-and-projection-my-final-memo-to-stormcloud/" REL="nofollow">here.</A> (with commentary).<BR/><BR/>reading between the blustery threats, it looks like backpedalling and BS to me. not that i'm at all sorry for taking it seriously enough to write about, but...<BR/><BR/>yeah, i dunno. seriously reality-challenged, whatever else. that's got both its advantages and its disadvantages when it comes to attacking the more conventionally-metaphysic'd. <BR/>that and the whole "dumber than a truck full of chickens going to town" thing and i wouldn't probably lose -too- much sleep over it; doesn't make her any less vile of course.<BR/><BR/>"it's the thought that counts"belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.com